Energy From Thorium Discussion Forum

It is currently Sep 20, 2018 11:14 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
PostPosted: Apr 06, 2018 12:29 am 
Offline

Joined: Apr 19, 2008 1:06 am
Posts: 2240
Europe has banned Russian nuclear plants and some have been discontinued in an advanced construction stage. The West European nuclear industry is in a bad state. German companies have discontinued nuclear due to domestic ban on all nuclear. Areva has broken up after getting in trouble all over. There is no working EPR. I pity Poland and Russian clients who have fallen for ECM.
Perhaps European nuclear should move independent of politicians and cooperate with rosatom.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Apr 08, 2018 2:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Feb 28, 2011 10:10 am
Posts: 354
jagdish wrote:
Europe has banned Russian nuclear plants and some have been discontinued in an advanced construction stage. The West European nuclear industry is in a bad state. German companies have discontinued nuclear due to domestic ban on all nuclear. Areva has broken up after getting in trouble all over. There is no working EPR. I pity Poland and Russian clients who have fallen for ECM.
Perhaps European nuclear should move independent of politicians and cooperate with rosatom.


Well, some Russian VVERs are being built in Finland and Hungary, both EU-countries. The Czech Republic is also considering the construction of new nuclear plants, including VVER-designs. The Czechs can manufacture a lot of the components needed for such nuclear plants themselves (Skoda JS, Doosan Skoda Power, etc), so they won't be completely dependent on Russian suppliers.

You're right about Poland. Poland has a much more troubled relationship with Russia than the Czech Republic or Hungary. So yes, the chance of Russian VVERs being built in Poland is basically zero. This is also the case with countries in Western Europe (UK, et cetera), where the Russians will have little or no chance due to politics, although the modern VVERs are good and proven designs.


Last edited by camiel on Apr 09, 2018 2:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Apr 08, 2018 6:31 pm 
Offline

Joined: Jun 19, 2013 11:49 am
Posts: 1552
There are reports that a modern VVER was in the running to get the slot in the GDA that eventually went to the HPR-1000.

The VVER has a lot of interesting features, and a hybrid design between Western and Russian practice might produce interesting results.
(Personally I think VVER steam generator design is superior, for example)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Apr 11, 2018 5:59 am 
Offline

Joined: Jun 05, 2011 6:59 pm
Posts: 1335
Location: NoOPWA
Poland:
If you are going to build MSRs, heck, any type of reactor, you may want to build a few with PCM thermal storage and with 2x12/7 power islands. This might help you survive Germany’s monomania with silly solar.

_________________
DRJ : Engineer - NAVSEA : (Retired)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: May 14, 2018 12:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Nov 30, 2006 3:30 pm
Posts: 3783
Location: Alabama
Poland’s largest power group opts to back wind over nuclear

Exclusive: PGE picks Baltic wind over nuclear as Poland embraces green power

Quote:
One source said PGE could not fund both projects and cheap technology had swung the decision in favor of wind. PGE could still play a smaller role in the nuclear project which has been delayed and still needs government approval. “PGE cannot afford both — offshore wind and nuclear. The decision was taken to go for offshore,” the source said.


Poland's PGE not decided to withdraw from nuclear project - minister


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: May 17, 2018 7:16 am 
Offline

Joined: Apr 19, 2008 1:06 am
Posts: 2240
Intermittent nature of wind energy means that storage has to be part of basic design unless other types of power form the bulk of supply. Compressed air strikes me as logical storage match. It could be underwater in offshore wind and modified in land based power.
Compressed air could be used via pneumatic motors for mechanical use saving on conversion to electric power. Lighting and electronic use can be met from photo electric generation in a distributed generation system.
This is the course if you do not have a stomach for nuclear.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group