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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2009 7:59 am 
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Nuclear Up, Solar Down after German Elections

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=ainTAlc7jzPs


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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2009 12:46 pm 
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GCarty wrote:
Do you really think Gazprom are that stupid? They're far more likely to substantially up their funding of anti-nuclear activists in Germany...


No George I don't. I was being facetious.

Nevertheless every time the Russians do choke-off the gas supply in the Winter to Europe, they help our cause, and they have done it the past two heating seasons, so...


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PostPosted: Sep 29, 2009 7:25 am 
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Is there any danger that Russian spies could try to sabotage a German nuclear power plant, in order to turn people there against nuclear power again?


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PostPosted: Sep 29, 2009 9:09 am 
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I'd certainly doubt it, given that another global nuclear downturn like the one that followed Chernobyl would have unfortunate implications for their nuclear export industry--they're talking about trying to get 1/4 of the world market.


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PostPosted: Sep 29, 2009 9:35 am 
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First of all the Russian aren't that crazy!!! And I doubt that theories about Russian plotting against nuclear power or whatever, are more in the area of fiction...

They won't fund any anti-nuclear activists because they sell VVER reactors themselves. And as Russian designs become much more competitive and much safer, they will try to gain ground on European market. Furthermore gas will be needed for a long time, independent of the rate of nuclear growth. In addition, there are new costumers on the market such as the UK which becomes an energy importer with increasing needs. And the relaxation of the gas market would give the Russians more time to develop new exploitation fields, to cope with the current foreseen market growth. Otherwise there will be a severe problem in the future...

And sabotaging a nuclear power plant? Are you insane?

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PostPosted: Sep 30, 2009 2:44 am 
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STG wrote:
And sabotaging a nuclear power plant? Are you insane?

What exactly do you mean? How difficult would it be for the FSB to install a mole in the crew of some German nuclear reactor in order to make it "do a Three Mile Island"*?

*Yes, I know that no-one was hurt at TMI, but the idea would be to turn people against nuclear energy, not to cause death or destruction...


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PostPosted: Sep 30, 2009 7:48 am 
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I can think of literally dozens of ways to easily force a long plant shutdown without causing significant equipment damage or personnel injuries.

The effect on a plants capacity factor would be the same.


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PostPosted: Sep 30, 2009 8:01 am 
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This thread is drifting into nonsense.


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PostPosted: Jan 23, 2010 4:07 pm 
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Germany extends operating times for older plants, as reported by DER SPIEGEL today (no English translation yet).
Utility companies and the government have agreed to allow all of Germany's 17 nuclear power plants to keep operating, Der Spiegel magazine reported on Saturday, even two which were scheduled for closure soon.
Only English-language coverage as of right now:
http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100123-24773.html

These two plants are mighty old:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblis_Nuclear_Power_Plant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neckarwest ... ower_Plant
But Germany, like many other countries, is simply too broke to shut them down. That and the carbon thing.


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PostPosted: Jan 23, 2010 4:15 pm 
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Congratulaions !

That is definitely progress !


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PostPosted: Feb 20, 2010 9:34 am 
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For those who have not been following developments in Germany closely, here is an update. After the initial enthusiasm about the center-right coalition's electoral victory last fall, things are looking less rosy for nuclear power now. The reasons are very specific to the political situation in Germany. There is an upcoming regional election in May in the largest province (by population and economy). Because the liberal democrats (FDP), which had backed license extensions of existing nuclear plants, are doing poorly in the polls, the Christian Democrats (CDU) are now looking at a potential coalition with the Green party for the regional parliament. This explains why some CDU members are now calling for an accelerated exit from nuclear power. I should mention that Germany is totally isolated in this approach.


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