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PostPosted: Feb 02, 2014 8:07 pm 
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Would it be safer?
Would it make jobs?
Would it be a good investment?


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PostPosted: Feb 02, 2014 9:36 pm 
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Safer - maybe. LWR in the US have a fantastic safety record so it is going to be tough to match their safety record. Likely the first one or two units will be safer than the first LWRs but not as safe as current LWRs just because there new things to learn. Eventually they will be safer.

Replacing gen2 reactors with AP1000's would definitely improve safety.

Yes and no. Obviously a huge destruction and construction project will have many jobs associated with it, so yes. Replacing one reactor with another equal size reactor though does nothing to improve the overall cost effectiveness of our society so in a competitive global economy it will make it harder to keep jobs here so in that sense no. Overall, I'd say no.

It would be much wiser to replace the oldest coal power plants. This would improve the environment, reduce the massive shipment of coal, and improve safety in the sense that coal kills thousands - not the workers but from the general population. One source says 13,000 per year or roughly each 1GWe plant kills 43 people per year. Since LWRs haven't killed anyone in the US we have much more room to improve safety by replacing a coal plant than an older nuclear power plant.


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PostPosted: Feb 02, 2014 9:38 pm 
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Since the old reactors are by far the safest, and almost in all cases the cheapest, source of energy, they ought to be replaced only after we replace all the other sources of energy with new reactors.


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PostPosted: Feb 03, 2014 5:18 am 
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Who pays?
Not even an RBMK is as catastrophically dangerous as people claim it is.

The longer these reactors remain in operation the better.


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PostPosted: Feb 05, 2014 6:13 am 
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Using old reactors for their safe lifetime is economically the best way.
Waste digesting fast MSR is the logical next generation choice. The US has accumulated substantial waste and waste disposal funds. These could be rightly used for development.
Once the design is developed and approved by the NRC, further sanctions should only be the waste digesting reactors.
They could also be licensed to others interested.


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PostPosted: Feb 05, 2014 9:44 pm 
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You know - It's been brought up before that there are a lot of coal plants being retired. More will be retired as the EPA tightens the screws. If present EPA rules hold up in court, zero to very few new coal plants will be built. There is a market here. There is an opportunity for young ambitious people to replace these facilities with something better.

People want clean air and water. Nuclear plants offer both. Has this been sold to people? Well, uh, no.

Instead of trying to fix something that isn't broke, i.e. existing nukes, why not go after the low hanging fruit? The low hanging fruit is the coal plants that are being forced to shut down. Offer a ready replacement for these facilities when they are shut down. This replacement should be presented in such a way that it is appreciated by the green people, the public service commissions, the entities replacing their power plants and the end users that plug in their toasters each morning.

Also - the price doesn't matter. Check out what's been paid for windmills. You'll beat it with nukes.


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