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PostPosted: Jun 28, 2014 8:44 am 
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The new Russian sodium-cooled fast reactor BN-800 has reached criticality, according to a report by WNN (http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN-Ru ... 06141.html). It is going to be interesting how the Russians will fare with this reactor, as the SFR is generally regarded as the "standard bearer" of the Gen-IV reactor types. Russia has also sold two BN-800 to China and is planning to introduce the BN-1200 in Russia by 2020. India will also bring a SFR to criticality later this year.


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PostPosted: Jul 02, 2014 1:47 am 
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http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/new ... 167379.ece
Indians seem to be lagging by a few months.


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PostPosted: Jul 03, 2014 4:52 pm 
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jagdish wrote:
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/states/nuclear-plant-near-chennai-all-set-for-milestone/article6167379.ece
Indians seem to be lagging by a few months.


The BN600 has been operating for 30 years.


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PostPosted: Jul 03, 2014 4:54 pm 
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camiel wrote:
Russia has also sold two BN-800 to China ...


I think they either cancelled or put that contract on hold. Be interesting to see if it is reinstated. I can see the Russians inviting the Chinese to come and have a look soon.


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PostPosted: Jul 07, 2014 12:12 am 
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Russians have designed it as a plutonium burner with no blanket.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Curre ... -Reactors/
The first MSR/LFTR should be a liquid fuel version of the same using FNaBe salt and no moderator. BN-800 should have really tried out primary sodium and secondary LEAD coolant. That would have encouraged the Indians to do likewise.


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PostPosted: Aug 08, 2014 12:19 pm 
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http://www.ndtv.com/article/south/kalap ... ear-572272
Commissioning of Indian PFBR, designed to irradiate thorium in its blanket, will be only next year. It will be an important producer of U-233.The statement of the minister stresses on thorium utilization. This is due to limited indigenous uranium resources,the only natural source of fissile material.
The importance of external fissile feed in a thorium fueled reactor has also been pointed out. The availability of mined uranium is easier now, even for India after agreement with the Nuclear Suppliers Group. However all fuel imports are subject to politics and the relief could be temporary.


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PostPosted: Sep 22, 2014 11:42 pm 
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http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/09/russia ... clear.html
Russians are also making progress in fuel. Will they focus on liquid fuel too?


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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2014 11:33 pm 
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Video of BN-800 planned to start producing electricity in October 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCgXcfGv5J8
Published on Sep 27, 2014


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http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN-Ru ... 41502.html


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PostPosted: Apr 19, 2015 9:52 pm 
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Many a slip, between cup and the lip, as usual.


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PostPosted: Dec 12, 2015 9:36 pm 
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Russia connects BN-800 fast reactor to grid

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/NN-Ru ... 21501.html

Ruskies continue to press on with real fast breeders.

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PostPosted: Dec 15, 2015 3:39 am 
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Liquid fuel and fast spectrum are one step ahead of current light and heavy water reactors. At leat some people are soldiering on with fast spectrum. China could move on liquid fuel reactors too.
Are there any takers for fast liquid fuel?


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https://www.iaea.org/PRIS/CountryStatis ... urrent=451

BN-800 BELOYARSK-4 achieved Commercial operation on Jan, 13th, 2016, without any fanfare.

What is the definition of Commercial operation, a minimum sustained power production above x % ?

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PostPosted: Jan 27, 2016 8:39 am 
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macpacheco wrote:
https://www.iaea.org/PRIS/CountryStatistics/ReactorDetails.aspx?current=451

BN-800 BELOYARSK-4 achieved Commercial operation on Jan, 13th, 2016, without any fanfare.

What is the definition of Commercial operation, a minimum sustained power production above x % ?


Interesting - according to
http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/-Russ ... 11601.html

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The total cost of constructing the BN-800 fast neutron reactor has been calculated as nearly RUB146 billion


864MW, for $1.9 billion, =$2,200/KW.

If we use older Roubles, before Putin screwed the Russian economy, that would equate to $5,000. Even that is competitive with PWRs, and BELOYARSK-4 should classify as a FOAK.


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PostPosted: Jan 28, 2016 2:13 pm 
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If we use older Roubles, before Putin screwed the Russian economy, that would equate to $5,000. Even that is competitive with PWRs, and BELOYARSK-4 should classify as a FOAK.


I am not sure but I don't think that is competitive with russian PWRs. Their goal is to make the BN1200 competitive with latest russian PWRs but they are not sure that they can do it.

The japanese sodium fast reactor (JSFR) is planned to produce electricity at lower cost than light water reactors. If they can do it this will be impressive but I don't know if they plan to go forward in the project.


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