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 Post subject: Where is it now?
PostPosted: May 22, 2012 9:08 am 
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The US Gov't is famous for never throwing anything away, so stupid question time...

Where are the systems that ORNL built now? Are they stuffed in crates in Area 51 or somesuch? If they can be found, wouldn't they serve as a working prototype to prove the various science and upon which to base regulations and approvals?


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 Post subject: Re: Where is it now?
PostPosted: May 22, 2012 11:52 am 
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If you are referring to the equipment used in MSRE I believe it is still in the same concrete hole in the ground where they put it in the first place. They did remove the uranium from the fuel salt, and I understand they have extracted the flush salt for use in other experiments. The fuel salt (sans uranium) is still in Tennessee (I don't know if that is in the dump tanks or in drums).


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 Post subject: Re: Where is it now?
PostPosted: May 22, 2012 2:53 pm 
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The high level waste is probably in WIPP and the rest of the equipment is more than likely buried in Barnwell, SC.

MSRE was decontaminated and demolished some years ago. Look at the ORNL website you may find some info.


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 Post subject: Re: Where is it now?
PostPosted: May 24, 2012 12:38 pm 
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USPWR_SRO wrote:
MSRE was decontaminated and demolished some years ago.


No, the MSRE is very much intact in building 7503 at Oak Ridge National Lab. I'll be touring the facility with Baroness Worthington in two weeks.


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 Post subject: Re: Where is it now?
PostPosted: May 24, 2012 7:21 pm 
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I would expect the equipment to be highly contaminated. Which would make examination rather inconvenient to do. You could never be sure you had all the parts and pieces in place for a good test. You would not likely get the go ahead to restart the reactor even if it was all there. Computers and drawings have progress a lot since they were built. Much could be done online. You would want to build from scratch and do non radioactive testing before going hot.


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 Post subject: Re: Where is it now?
PostPosted: May 24, 2012 7:39 pm 
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Kirk Sorensen wrote:
USPWR_SRO wrote:
MSRE was decontaminated and demolished some years ago.


No, the MSRE is very much intact in building 7503 at Oak Ridge National Lab. I'll be touring the facility with Baroness Worthington in two weeks.


Then what was the major cleanup effort at MSRE for some years ago? Several hundreds of millions of dollars spent. Was that just for fissile material removal and cleanup?


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 Post subject: Re: Where is it now?
PostPosted: May 25, 2012 8:29 am 
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Yes, and planning on the next phase of cleanup.
What isn't clear to me is what they did with the barren fuel salt after they removed the uranium from it.
Did they put it back into the dump tank or did they put it into drums for storage?


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 Post subject: Re: Where is it now?
PostPosted: May 25, 2012 2:46 pm 
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What did they give to Rez in the Czech Republic? Some of the coolant salt?


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 Post subject: Re: Where is it now?
PostPosted: May 26, 2012 7:53 pm 
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I'm not sure if it was the secondary salt or the flush salt.


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