The United Arab Emirates and its Nuclear Future

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Post by Kirk Sorensen » Jan 07, 2017 4:56 pm

UAE’s first nuclear plant is 75 per cent complete
Rising from the desert sands in the eastern part of Abu Dhabi emirate, the Barakah plant is set to come online by 2020. The nuclear plant is expected to provide for a quarter of the UAE’s electricity needs — and save up to 12 million tonnes in carbon emissions every year.

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Post by Kirk Sorensen » Jan 19, 2017 3:10 pm

UAE unveils long-term energy strategy
The strategy was unveiled on 10 January by the UAE's vice president, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, who is prime minister of Dubai. Sheikh Mohammed said the UAE aims to invest AED600 billion ($163 billion) by 2050 to meet growing demand and ensure the sustainable growth of its economy.

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Post by E Ireland » Jan 19, 2017 3:47 pm

They are really putting us to shame.
Beginning to think the APR-1400 is the future of LWRs.

Although myself I am shifting to backing CANDU type designs.

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Post by camiel » Jan 28, 2017 11:16 am

Interesting article ("Nuclear options") about the success of the Korean AP-1400 nuclear power plants in Abu Dhabi(UAE), in this week's edition of The Economist:

http://www.economist.com/news/business/ ... ower-plant

Constructing large nuclear power plants, within time and budget, is not an impossible feat, it seems. Makes you wonder why the construction of new EPR and Westinghouse reactors in Europe and the USA has been a disaster. Unfortunately, regulatory obstruction in western countries is not mentioned as an important cost driver in the article.

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Post by nsche » Jan 28, 2017 6:53 pm

I read the article. Very interesting. The article said "America’s regulators expect to reach a decision on NuScale’s application within 40 months." Does this seem to be a lot of time? As I understand this isn't even the approval for a specific site etc., just the generic approval of a design.

I think they built the first atomic bomb in less time than that.
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Re: The United Arab Emirates and its Nuclear Future

Post by camiel » Jan 29, 2017 6:45 am

Forty months, which is more than three years, is a lot of time for evaluating a design which is basically a scaled-down version of a conventional PWR. Maybe it is just part of the regulatory obstruction I was talking about. I wonder how this compares to the U.S. FAA evaluating and certifying a new Boeing jetliner.

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Post by macpacheco » Jan 29, 2017 6:57 am

If the NRC approves this design in 40 months (3 years and change), it will be a very positive step.
In fact I would be surprised if they meet such a target. I think its going to take at least 5 years.
I however hope to be surprised.
We can hope and demand better, but considering the recent history for AP1000 and ESBWR, 40 months would be a great evolution in NRC efficiency.
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Re: The United Arab Emirates and its Nuclear Future

Post by E Ireland » Jan 29, 2017 9:12 am

This is a similar problem to the palava over the UK GDA and the construction of Hinkley Point.

The UK commits to an atomic bomb/power programme in about 1948, construction commences at Calder Hall in about 1953 and the plant is producing power in 1956. Despite this being the first industrial scale nuclear power station anywhere in the world.
It then obtains a 47 year operational life.

I wish we could achieve that today.


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Re: The United Arab Emirates and its Nuclear Future

Post by E Ireland » Jan 11, 2018 3:24 pm

It would be exceptionally interesting to know what interest rates on capital were used to calculate those prices.
And projected lifetimes.


And also how this applies to areas in the west where capital is almost negligibly priced for government projects.



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Re: The United Arab Emirates and its Nuclear Future

Post by jagdish » Jan 11, 2019 10:53 pm

Nuclear cold feet?

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