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Remembrances of Dr. Kazuo Furukawa

Thursday, December 15th, 2011

Dr. Ritsuo Yoshioka of the International Thorium Molten-Salt Forum has relayed some sad news to us:

“This is a very sad notice. Professor Kazuo Furukawa passed away on December 14th 2011. He had a cancer surgery in last summer, and he once came back. In last October, he gave several lectures at different seminars, and gave lectures on the Internet TVs, very actively. He was in a hospital since last November in order to relax his body, but it is a time we have to say the final words. I and other staffs will keep promoting his will, that is to realize Thorium MSR on this world. We hope your cooperation to this Forum, same as before.”

I had the great pleasure of meeting Dr. Furukawa at the first Thorium Energy Conference (ThEC2010) in London, England in October 2010. Dr. Furukawa was very friendly to all but forceful in his conviction that only the molten-salt reactor had the potential to usefully realize the titanic energies of thorium.

The conference featured speakers from other thorium-related reactor topics, including solid-fueled thorium reactors and accelerator-driven thorium reactors. Without fail, at the conclusion of any talk on a thorium reactor type other than an MSR, Dr. Furukawa would raise his had for the first question, and in his broken English spoken with great earnestness, would try to convey his intense convictions in the superlative merit of the molten-salt reactor.

This was a man who wasn’t going to waste any time.

Shortly after the London conference, Dr. Furukawa and Senator Keishiro Fukushima traveled to Knoxville, Tennessee and I drove up there and served as a bit of a host for them. We visited several locations and I enjoyed having some time to talk with Dr. Furukawa.

He shared several stories with me that stay with me–one might even say that they haunt me.

The first was his description of being a young sickly man on the island of Honshu in August 1945. He had been called into military service to repel the anticipated American invasion of the Japanese home islands. He knew he would die soon in the invasion. He told me that when he heard that the bombs had gone off in Hiroshima and Nagasaki he realized that the Japanese would surrender, and for the first time in many years, he believed that he would live and have a future.

He told me that he committed his life to improving the lives of all humanity because of his elation that his life would continue. I had heard stories of American soldiers who believed that they would certainly be killed in a Japanese invasion, but this was the first time I ever heard the same story but told from a Japanese perspective.

He also shared a copy of a talk given by Alvin Weinberg called “The Protohistory of the Molten-Salt Reactor”. This talk contained some very valuable insights into the beginnings of fluoride reactor research in the US, but then Furukawa made a casual, almost off-hand remark:

“Alvin would never talk about the MSR in the United States the way he would talk about it with us when he was abroad.”

I realized that Weinberg was truly scared by the American nuclear community and what they had done and still could do to him and his colleagues because of their defense of the MSR concept. And Furukawa confirmed that Weinberg was a great advocate of the concept when he was “out of the watchful ears” of the American nuclear community.

Farewell, Dr. Furukawa, and thank you for all that you did for us.

1962 AEC Report to Kennedy on Nuclear Power

Sunday, March 20th, 2011

In trying to answer the persistent question about LFTRs: “why wasn’t this done before?” I’ve obtained a report from 1962 made to President Kennedy where future development options for nuclear power were laid before him. Alvin Weinberg specifically references this report in his 1994 memoir (“First Nuclear Era”) and goes on to say that it recommends both the plutonium fast-breeder reactor and the liquid-fluoride thorium reactor as technologies that should be developed. Here’s what Weinberg had to say in his book:

“Until then I had never quite appreciated the full significance of the breeder. But now I became obsessed with the idea that humankind’s whole future depended on the breeder. For society generally to achieve and maintain a living standard of today’s developed countries depends on the availability of a relatively cheap, inexhaustible source of energy. (As I write these words, I realize that until recently I tended to dismiss solar energy as too expensive, and fusion as probably infeasible. I really don’t know whether this will always be the case.)

“The breeder became central in my thinking about nuclear-energy development. And, with Glenn Seaborg’s becoming the chair of AEC in 1960, the breeder acquired ever-increasing status with AEC—especially recognition as an essentially inexhaustible source of energy.

“In 1962, the AEC issued a report to the president on civilian nuclear power. Lee Haworth, a superbly responsible physicist-administrator, was in charge of drafting the report. He projected a nuclear deployment by 2000 of about 700 gigawatts (compared with the actual deployment in 1993 of 102 gigawatts), which seemed at the time quite reasonable. Both the fast breeder based on the 239Pu-238U cycle and the thermal breeder based on the 233U-232Th cycle figured prominently in the report. Indeed, the report implied that both systems should be pursued seriously, including large-scale reactor experimentation. It particularly favored molten uranium salts for the thermal breeder. But the molten-salt system was never given a real chance. Although the AEC established an office labeled “Fast Breeder,” no corresponding office labeled “Thermal Breeder” was established. As a result, the center of gravity of breeder development moved strongly to the fast breeder; the thermal breeder, as represented by the molten-salt project, was left to dwindle and eventually to die.”

At any rate, I have obtained a copy of this report and scanned it and made it available as a PDF. I think it is worthy of our study in an attempt to figure out why decisions were made that led us to the current situation.

Civilian Nuclear Power…a Report to the President–1962 (7 MB PDF)

Here are some interesting passages from the report:

Page 39:

In the thorium-uranium-233 cycle, the situation is quite different. U-233 emits more neutrons in thermal fission than does U-235; on the other hand, it is only slightly better in fast fission than in slow. Hence, thermal breeders offer greatest promise, minimizing as they do the power density and fuel endurability requirements. However, thermal breeders have a different complication in that fission products act as strong absorbers of slow neutrons, requiring that these products not accumulate too much. Among the most promising solutions of this difficulty is to use the fuel in fluid form, thus permitting continuous extraction and reprocessing to remove the fission products. Various fluid fuels have been studied for this purpose. The currently most promising approach is the use of fused uranium salts which can be circulated, both for reprocessing purposes and for heat transport. This technology is, however, in a fairly early stage.

Even when breeder reactors become economic and begin to be installed there will be a complication regarding fuel supplies. At least for some time to come, economic breeders will have breeding gains so low that they will produce not more than 3% or 4% of their fuel inventory each year. Hence, since the annual growth in energy consumption is about 6%, it will be necessary, if nuclear power increases its fractional share of the total load, to fuel some portion of the installations with fissionable uranium-235.

This leads to no great problem in the thorium-uranium thermal breeders. The fuel demand can be fulfilled simply by charging some of them, initially at least, with U-235, though at some sacrifice in economics and in the amount of U-233 that they produce.

On the other hand the “fast” reactors required to breed an excess of plutonium are economically attractive only when plutonium rather than U-235 is used to fuel them. Hence the most promising arrangement for incorporating them in a rapidly expanding nuclear power economy would undoubtedly be to use thermal converters to help provide the plutonium needed for added installations. This combination would continue until increases in the relative “yield” of plutonium from the breeders, together with a lower relative rate of growth of electrical energy consumption enabled the breeders to catch up and produce enough plutonium by themselves.

We get somewhat of an insight into the thinking of the Atomic Energy Commission with regards to breeder reactors. If they were to use uranium-plutonium, then plutonium supplies were crucial due to the fact that each fast breeder needed 10 to 15 times as much fissile material to generate a unit of power as a thermal reactor did. The light-water reactors at the time were producing plutonium as a byproduct. The fast-breeder needed and wanted that plutonium. Reactors like LFTR needed a tiny fraction of the fissile inventory as the fast breeder did and could be started on HEU.

Here’s an image of how the AEC envisioned light-water reactors running on enriched uranium and producing plutonium, and fast-breeder reactors needing that plutonium, working together.

The picture begins to become clearer, especially when we consider how Weinberg described what the AEC did with this report, establishing a “Fast Breeder” office but no “Thermal Breeder” office.

More thoughts on this later…

Thorium Debate at “Nuclear Townhall”

Friday, July 30th, 2010

Whether or not to use thorium is the “Debate of the Week” over at “Nuclear Townhall”, which is rapidly turning into one of my favorite nuclear news sites. Stop by and share your thoughts. Here’s their intro:

You don’t have to be involved in nuclear very long before you start hearing about thorium. It’s the other naturally occurring radioactive element that exists in large supplies and can produce nuclear fission.

The story is that Eugene Wigner, Alvin Weinberg and other pioneers of the Manhattan Project era believed thorium offered a much better way to tapping nuclear energy. We went the uranium route instead because uranium was the more practical option for the immediate task of building a bomb.

Nevertheless, thorium is three-to-four times as abundant as uranium. It doesn’t require isotope separation – a huge cost saving. When bombarded by neutrons, thorium doesn’t fission but converts to uranium-233 — which does. With U-233, the production of transuranics is orders of magnitude lower. This obviates any proliferation issues. (U-233 can be used to make a conventional weapon but is consumed all along within the reactor.). Depending on the reactor, the spent fuel can be much easier to handle. India has large supplies and is developing a thorium-based nuclear cycle.

While it might be a potentially appealing package for the U.S. — and was actually pursued to some extent in the 1990s — there are significant hurdles. The U.S. is obviously fully committed to the uranium fuel-cycle — as is the balance of the world — for the Renaissance. We are heavily invested in the status quo, both to meet U.S. demands and to compete internationally.

Can or should a thorium fuel cycle play a side-by-side role in Renaisssance Rev 1.0? Is there a plausible business case for the massive investment necessary? Or do public acceptance and first-of-a-kind licensing issues make it impractical? Are there other more appealing Generation IV options? In short, what’s the best way to proceed — if any — with the Thorium option?

I left a comment (still in moderation as I write this) that said:

Yes, we should use thorium, but it is important that you use the right machine to do it.

The “magic” of thorium is between it and U-238 (the two abundant nuclear isotopes) it’s the only one that can be consumed in a thermal spectrum reactor. That’s because its fissile product (U-233) produces more than two neutrons per thermal neutron absorption. Here’s the picture of how it works:

http://energyfromthorium.com/images/thoriumCycleNielsen.gif

Uranium-238 only can be completely consumed in a fast spectrum reactor. And fast reactors require 5-10 times more fissile material to produce the same amount of power, because the cross-sections are so much smaller in the fast spectrum. Here’s another picture:

http://energyfromthorium.com/images/fissionXSgraphic.gif

So you have only one choice if you want a thermal-spectrum breeder: thorium.

That said, you have to account for thorium’s (and U-233’s) “idiosyncrasies”. It takes about a month for Pa-233 (the intermediate product in thorium’s conversion to U-233) to decay. If it absorbs a neutron during that time you lose it as fuel. So you either need to remove Pa-233 or you need to have a low core power density. In solid fuel, the second option is the only one available to you. That’s how the Shippingport reactor successfully bred on thorium in its last core, but running a reactor at low power density isn’t very economic.

With fluid fuel, you have a lot of new options. That’s what Wigner advocated, but he didn’t know what fluid fuel to use. He thought it might be one based on water, and that’s what Weinberg started investigating at ORNL in the early 1950s. But there was no chemical form of thorium that was soluble in water in the conditions needed in the reactor. The better answer came out of left field from the folks who were working on the Aircraft Reactor project at ORNL in the early 1950s. They showed that a nuclear reactor based on liquid fluoride salts was feasible and had a lot of performance and safety advantages.

Weinberg was clever enough to realize that because there was a soluble form of thorium in fluoride salts (thorium tetrafluoride) that he had the basis for a potentially winning combination: fluoride salts and thorium. He worked for the remainder of his time at the ORNL to try to bring that dream to fruition, but the AEC was against him. They thought that his “molten-salt breeder reactor” threatened the agency’s position behind the plutonium-breeding sodium fast breeder. So they fired Weinberg and canned the molten-salt thorium research.

But we ought to reconsider that today, because safety and waste concerns are a lot more important now than they were in 1970, and fluoride reactors running on thorium excel in both categories.

I’m going to turn comments off on this post so that comments can be directed to Nuclear Townhall.

Alvin Weinberg’s UT Colloquia

Wednesday, October 25th, 2006

At the University of Tennessee (where I have been a distance student for the past three years) they regularly have webcasts of nuclear colloquia that they offer on a variety of topics. In commemoration of Dr. Weinberg I wanted to post a set of links to broadcasts of four colloquia he gave over the last few years.

A Question and Answer Interview with Dr. Alvin Weinberg
Presented September 1, 2004

The Second Nuclear Era–Revisited
Presented September 4, 2002

Enrico Fermi and the World’s First Controlled, Self-Sustaining Chain Reaction
Presented September 5, 2001

People and Personalities in the Manhattan Project
Presented on September 20, 2000

Each colloquium is about an hour long and I really enjoyed hearing Dr. Weinberg’s voice and hearing him describe his experiences with the development of nuclear power.

Alvin Weinberg, Thorium Pioneer (1915-2006)

Thursday, October 19th, 2006


Alvin Weinberg passed away last night at the age of 91 at his home in Oak Ridge. He was the director of Oak Ridge National Lab from 1950 to 1970 and supervised the development and construction of two molten-salt reactors. In his book “The First Nuclear Era”, he stated that the reason he took the job in Oak Ridge was because he was enamored with the possibility of developing fluid-fueled thorium reactors to power the entire world, an interest that was stoked by his mentor, Nobel Laureate Eugene Wigner, during their association on the Manhattan Project.

Despite his poor health and advanced age, I spoke with him briefly on the phone about a year ago. I asked him what he thought of molten-salt reactors. He said to me:

“Molten-salt reactors were a great idea. Molten-salt reactors still are a great idea…”

This from the man who invented the light-water reactor.

KnoxNews: Nuclear pioneer dies

Weinberg’s book:

The First Nuclear Era, 1994.

Selected articles:

Preface: Molten-Salt Reactors

Molten Fluorides as Power Reactor Fuels

Weinberg’s opinions about molten-salt (liquid-fluoride) reactors